"Purpose-built shoes that fail the purpose"
These shoes are built for climbing cracks and off-widths. I figure they are basically a cheaper TC Pro, but they tear extremely easy along the rand. After just a few climbs rubber was coming off around the ankles. They are great sport slab shoes though if you can't afford or fit in TC Pros and are looking for more of an edging-platform shoe. They fit wider feet with flatter toe boxes, sized exactly to Pontas, or .5 up from Shamans, for a with-socks snug fit.I rated them "seen worse" because I guess you could always climb off-width in Air Force ones and they would probably be far more shredded than these cheapies.